first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Did you try having someone else shoot it? If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Everything else seems to be working fine. It will be fine for a few shots, or even a magazine (10 rounds. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. Thank you for that great info! If it does, its hitting that bump too high. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. It's working fine now. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. How are you sending the slide forward? I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Does anyone have any suggestions? The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. This is only going to be used at the range. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Or like actually hitting it with a file some? This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Something he has seen in the field. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Kinda weird. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. The tools. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. buddy19 A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. I am making sure not to ease it forward. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. If all else fails I'll call Glock. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. is your locking block seated correctly? Clear editor. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Clear editor. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. I can swap the sli. This did the trick. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. This is only going to be used at the range. One new winner* is announced every week! I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. - Bren. Im a little ahead of you on this path. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. I could measure how it was off. Like polishing amounts? The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. I will look into it. Paste as plain text instead, Your previous content has been restored. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. What ammo? Just curious as to what Glock said. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. All Rights Reserved. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. 20+ is for 10mm. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. No need to clean, just add lube. Check for it. check the recoil spring. You must log in or register to reply here. Glad you got it fixed. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. Found the culprit. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. That's been my experience. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. Thanks. Thanks for the suggestion. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Have you tried it with the factory barrel? Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. The triggers arent nearly as drop in as theyd like to make them out to be. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. It was a good deal, and now I know why. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. Your link has been automatically embedded. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? None of my other Glocks do it. I've tried three different brand new ones.I can also add that I am 99% sure the problem is in the slide. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Glocks are pretty simple really. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. What do your used primers look like? I think I had a similar problem once. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. 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