Hmmm, looks to me like you have one those Waffenfabrik 98/05's. Trev23868 April , 2016 in Arms and other weapons. Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) who died 14/02/1916 YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL Belgium '
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Koishikawa switched from "B" to "S" barrel proof mark in the late Hi there, new to the forum as I just have purchased a 1940 Sauer K98 rifle. The Type 30 were introduced in 1897 and it was this bayonet design that would plagued the American Troopers during WWII. Production period : 1943-1944 Length without bayonet: 123.2 cm, 48.5" Production number: approximately 19500 In 1942-1943 one of the main issues connected with M91/30 use in the field was the detachable bayonet. He estimates that about the first 200,000 bayonets had the serial number on the top of the tang. In the mean time, my serial: Code: TULA AKSU 86 696647. Straight crosspiece; captured in the field, however, normally have the chrysanthemum symbol Japan occupied Korea from 19051945. Some of these rifles were reported to have been used on Okinawa. Near the end of the Korean War, a new bayonet was designed for the Garand that was a complete departure from earlier bayonets. ricasso. He believes it is 2203956. This bayonet exhibits the simplified manufacture typical of late-war substitute-standard bayonets: Chinese Labour Corps who died 20/02/1918 ST. ETIENNE-AU-MONT COMMUNAL CEMETERY France '
overall length and were produced in 18 distinct manufacturing patterns, Actually it very well could be GW. 800,000 serial number range. $12.00 shipping. Beware of these being offered as originals by secondary sources. This scabbard has a simple welded frog loop and integral throat. Type 30 -Variation G bayonet. (375mm.) Pommel: The Sheath should have markings up by the throat which should be matching to the markings & date on the bladehowever, you said it was black painted which is NOT CORRECT, it should be . Its Japanese for the Arisaka rifle, probably WW2. This is found on the underside of the bayonet housing assembly between the stacking hook and the rear bayonet lock in-lug. Hilt is ~4-3/8" in length - not including forward-swept "blade-breaker" quillon. Japanese Type 30 Arisaka Bayonet The Japanese military conflicts during the useful "life-span" of this bayonet were: Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905; World War I 1914-1918; Samil Independence Movement 1919-1920; Sino-Japanese of 1937-1945; Panay Incident 1937; World War II 1939-1945; The pommel is a contoured birdshead and the wooden grips are also contoured. and are based on recorded serial number information. BRITISH MILITARY BAYONETS FROM 1700 TO 1945. dailyinfo[3]=' 45 Gunner HAZURA SINGH 31st Mountain Battery Indian Mountain Artillery who died 03/03/1920 TEHRAN MEMORIAL Iranm '
Japanese Bayonet. Fullered blade with about 60% bright finish remaining with some staining and light sharpening. I have this as a spreadsheet on my computer, if at any point anyone wants a copy of it, let me know format and email to send it to and I'll get you a copy. were numbered in blocks, or series, of 99,999 each [actually 100,000, Shallow, sloppy fuller; or were they just unique to the bayonet and scabbords themselves?? *JAPANESE TYPE 38 ARISAKA MILITARY RIFLE. You can also order this service online from our Identification Request Page or send a check or money order with your identification request or as a token of gratitude if this site has proven to be helpful to you. This referred to the area of wood . Bayonets from Janzen's Notebook): Symbols indicating the arsenals at which the bayonets were manufactured, Steel scabbard is free of dents., s/n 23 $295.00 Add to Cart Compare Quick view JAPANESE TYPE 30 HOOKED BAYONET - C34112 Wood grip plates slightly contoured on the forward face. Original WW2 Japanese Nagoya Last Ditch Type 30 Bayonet 38 99 W/ Scabbard. Jealous? "for education" (not to be confused with the school mark). This Type 44 carbine's serial number is 37140 and bears the four-connected circle symbol of the Tokyo . The Model/Type markings are generally found on the top of the receiver, forward (towards to muzzle) of the chamber and generally indicate original caliber unless modified by another country at a later date. SN 84389. The serial number of the bayonet is on the pommel. Identification Request Page. These rifles will normally be found stamped with a symbol similar to Welcome..first off, the 44 is for 1944. Just a few examples of appraisal values forwaffenfabrik. The best of the Beacons. LaBar does list another oddball, bright blade variant Type 30 (LB-108) in the National Denki section of the book and notes that the fact that the blade is bright, even though it was manufactured in a series of blued blade bayonets. In 1933 this scheme was replaced by a system in which rifles What I would suggest is a very "Krupp" influence in the design of the logo. LaBar classified this frog as LBF #23. Early production bayonet by Kokura with the serial number placed on the top of the blade tang rather than on the pommel. The bayonet has a hooked quillon with a 15 1/2 inch blade, and is marked with the Japanese Tokyo Arsenal symbol with a serial number at These bayonets were produced along with Mid-War 7.7mm. IMO Bayonets Of Japan is probably the best bayonet book out there for the Japanese Type 30 bayonet. No arsenal markings; has received a delivery of a small number of these rare and hard to find early WW2 issue Japanese Model 30 Arisaka rifle bayonets with hooked quillons (cross guards). Maker's marks? very late in World War II. Type99 Short Rifles, during the transition from standard designs to substitute-standard manufacturing simplifications. M1 Garand, Mosin Nagant 91/30, Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine, SMLE No 1 MK III*, Russian SKS, Yugo M59/66A, WASR 10, AR-15, K31 Karabiner, M1 Carbine, Lee Enfield No 4 MkI*, Kar98k, 1911A1, P.08 Luger, P.38, By jamesmcnatt in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles, By lxvnrsw in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum. According to research published by collector/researcher, Nick Komiya, rubberized canvas was introduced in 1940. var fontstart = ''
The scabbard is a later pattern with tubular end (instead of a ball tip). wide. As you can see from the attached images, the variation of bayonet that I have is pre/early war as it was manufactured with a bright blade, fuller, contoured birds head pommel, and has the hooked quillon. In 1937, the automobile department became a separate company which grew into what is known today as Toyota Motor Sales. Physical Description . The Arisaka rifles were designated with the year of the Powered by Invision Community, British/colonial rifles/bayonets & now Turkish bayonets (& hopefully a rifle or 2), Roman army; WWI and its bayonets - German Imperial bayonets especially; English cheese, beer, smoked back bacon; being a POF, WW1 era bayonets, classic military rifles, Wireless, horse & motor transport, surviving trophy artillery, Imperial Austrian arms, breech-loading mechanisms, target and training pistols, Upcoming changes to logging in - click here, GWF is free to use so please support the Forum. dailyinfo[23]=' 9656 Private Isaac COOPER "A" Coy. Cleaning rods come either blued or finished in the white. The L. Honeycutt, Jr., and F. Patt Anthony, Fifth Additionally, if there is anything that you would like to see on the following pages - in a weaponry Normal point. The Type 30 bayonet was in continuous manufacture from adoption in 1897 until 1945 and used with the initial T30 6.5mm Arisaka rifle which was replaced in 1905 by the T97 Arisaka and also fits the new model 1939 rifle T99 Arisaka in 7.7mm. Glossary of Bayonet Terms definitions of common bayonet terms. The serial number is found on the left side of the receiver on most standard rifles. The bayonet serial numbers were unique to the bayonets and had nothing to do with the rifle serial. I have put together a quick reference sheet for Japanese Bayonet Markings for the Type 30 Bayonet. Japanese Army, indicating that the rifle belonged to the Emperor. Matsushita Kinzoku was a subsidiary of Matshusita National Denki (Matsushita National Electric Co.). Blank entries I am sure this is a beginners question, but I am interested in purchasing a bayonet for it. Mid-War Type30 bayonet with highly polished, blued, fullered blade; straight crosspiece, contoured wraparound grips, fastened with rivets; and, flat birds-head pommel. This bayonet has the square type pommel, the blade is unfullered, the handle is held in place with 2 rivets, and was issued in a wooden . The abbreviations are listed below the table. Rifle Brigade who died 13/02/1916 MENIN ROAD SOUTH MILITARY CEMETERY Belgium '
Can I assume then that this one is from the Koishikawa Arsenal, dating about 1920's to 1940's? Late-war substitute-standard or "last-ditch" sword bayonet. The 95thseries was the final series produced by Hikari Seiki. which list the weapons issued to the German soldier. Due to it's age, there is a lack of information available concerning it's history. This bayonet was designed to fit the Type 30 (1897), Type 35 (1902), Type 38 (1905) and Type 99 (1939) Japanese Rifles and Carbines. Some concentric circle rifles were remarked Any ideas on where is a good place to look?? To the left of the serial number is is a kana within a circle, but I do not know what that means. Reading Brophy a little more carefully, we discover that in Fiscal 1918 (July 1, 1917 to June 30, 1918) there are listed under Parts for Bayonets, Model of 1905 50 Blades and 46,000 Blades with Guards, as well as thousands of the other parts of the bayonet. It cannot be removed from the scabbard without damage. 1932 Tula M91/30, serial number 94015. In 1937, the automobile department became a separate company which grew into what is known today as Toyota Motor Sales. Enter your search keyword. Regular M91/30 rifle with folding bayonet designed by N.S. manufacture or the arsenal that supervised the manufacturing The design was intended to give the average Japanese infantryman a long enough reach to pierce the abdomen of a cavalryman. But you never know when something might appear somewhere! A 3rdstyle is found on wartime examples with a rectangular Kanji (no point). Flag measures 14.75in. (203mm.) Koishikawa switched from the "B" to the "S" barrel proof mark in the The Type 30 bayonet (, sanjnen-shiki jken) was a bayonet designed for the Imperial Japanese Army to be used with the Arisaka Type 30 Rifle and was later used on the Type 38 and Type 99 rifles, Types 96 and 99 light machine guns, and the Type 100 submachine gun. Japanese Arisaka Type 38 rifle showing B on the barrel as a proof mark symbol. Japanese Navy and not based totally on the Arisaka action) are not (73mm.) If you study the post in the link above you will see the serial numbers that have been recorded on Britsh service Arisaka bayonets. The series marks and serial number on the pommel cap appear to be re-stamped over other numbers, so it is quite possible that this was a re-work of an earlier bayonet. This included removing the serial numbers from the mag plate, bolt, and butt plate and bayonet. The press stud mechanism is in good, crisp working order. These marks are shown in the following table. The M1905 Bayonet When the Garand was adopted as our new infantry rifle in 1936, the standard bayonet was the M1905. Thin crosspiece; and, Belt frog for carrying the Type30 bayonet used on the Type38 and Type99 rifles. var mydate=new Date()
In addition, rifles in the 1.6 million serial number range have been observed ranging from number 1,602,XXX through 1,639,XXX. The only marking I could find on the blade was an arsenal mark on the right ricasso that indicates that it was produced at the Kokura Arsenal. specially-marked rifles is not known, although it is speculated that they The flat sided grips and lack of quillion would indicate later, probably WW2, production. All early production bayonets (say about pre-1930) are "type A" as the example photographed in this thread, with screw bolts securing the grips using oval washers and oval nuts, and with a hook quillion. This Type 30 Bayonet was made by Matsushita Kinzoku, is typical of the ones during the later part of WWII. 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S. Military Knives, Bayonets & Machetes, German clamshells and other bayonets: A collector's guide, World Bayonets, Eighteen Hundred to the Present. long by 2.875in. Danish use on the Remington Rolling Block rifle. The securing strap was changed back to leather in March 1941. As usual, I'm not responsible for any factual errors, but please report JavaScript is disabled. After using up all the Type 35, 38 and 30 barrels they had on hand, the makers started using training machine gun barrels. The fit and finish of these bayonets are inferior to the Army issue pieces, as they weren't expected to stand up to the rigors of service use. year 2599 (1939), and the Type 2 paratroop rifle was adopted These were used in schools for training purposes. Oklahoma 74011-1142, USA. or british? What kind or type should I look for and most importantly. ISBN: 0-9619789-1-0. At various times, rifles were removed from military service and sold to two digits of the adoption year according to the standard Japanese diagrams showing the basic terminology used to describe bayonets, scabbards, and frogs. and 34th Coy. (203mm.) Leather belt frog for carrying the Type30 bayonet used on the Type38 and Type99 rifles. I.M.A. If you can find it though, it is pretty amazing. In his book, Bayonets of Japan, Ray LaBar indicates that this scabbard is a late-war type most often observed on school bayonets. They were the longest rifles among their contemporaries even before the 400-mm Type 30 bayonets were attached, making them rather unwieldy; the length of the rifles reflected the emphasis of bayonet fighting in Japanese Army doctrine during that era. Search for: Home. So in answer to your question - for a T30 to be pre-1919 it must be a Type A (screw bolts with oval washers, hook quillion, and welded steel scabbard with ball tip) and with the Koishikawa/Kokura arsenal mark. Rifles History of the Bayonet: 1500s to the Present Day, AK Bayonets 101 (Kalashnikov AK47, AKM, and AK74), United States Thank you gentlemen for the information. Edition, 1996, published by Julin Books, 5282 Ridan Way, Palm Beach Thankyou for the info, I'll pass it to the owner. Typically training bayonets tend to be a little more rare than traditional wartime bayonets. An oval opening in the frog was to allow a cloth strap on the tunic to pass under the belt, through the frog opening, to a button on the uniform. 7x58mm Arisaka caliber, *JAPANESE TYPE 38 ARISAKA MILITARY RIFLE. The scabbard is made of wood, with minimal steel mounts, held together with string. I am still of the opinion that the bayonet could be of WW1 vintage. Carter classified this frog as #361. The scabbard is made of wood, with minimal steel mounts, held together with string. These are often referred to as WIN-13 rifles. identification sense - please feel free to request such and I will try to add additional information as soon as possible. Unloaded weight: 2.48 kg. This example exhibits rather good workmanship for a school bayonet. // Stop Define Variables for days of the month
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