I still have the 1 oz of Light Fire Cure in the press. Built a box frame 2'6" sq. If it looks a bit damp or won't light he sticks it in the warming tray of his oven for a while. Make sure kiln has good air circulation and that jars aren't touching walls to prevent condensation in jars. The shortest cure was 5 days and the longest cure was an initial 3 weeks followed by 6 - 8 more weeks in jars. I'm planning on air curing the Tennessee, as it suggests in the name of it, and the. Having got that off my chairy little hest, let's get down to the nitty-gritty. How soon before I can smoke them? Awesome article!!! Cheers, Hi John, Nicotiana Sylvestris, Kimgs catalogue number SKU 0950, $3.75 a packet (it's listed as a flower, which of course it is), Brilliant hub most helpful I've seen on the net thus far. I hope that you learned what you wanted from this article. Right now I have a number of shirazi leaves shade curing and I'm using this time to do some research about apothecary jars, but i've got to move fast and get some jars here in order to make sure the leaves don't dry up. As Mrs. Beeton once said: "To make jugged hare, first catch your hare." I've settled on 1 week in the press for this experiment bracket, so unless I get an additional press, it'll take me 3 months to get all the 1 oz pressed samples underway. The end result looked like nice moist almost store bought tobacco. If you over-do it and it gets too brittle a fine mist from a cheap hothouse mister should fix things. Also I wanted to add that the post is great and very easy to follow ..I am in Aus and have been growing now for a while and am getting some extremely good results but I am still waiting to have my first taste..I think the hardest part for me is going to be the cutting as I like a very fine cut and if anyone can suggest something that is not to expensive I will be very happy, anyway thanks for reading and hope to hear from some of you out there even in Qld..Cheers. Start by putting your dried buds in your chosen curing jars. Do you ferment leaves for smoking tobacco? On the tobacco front. Notice the orange ring in the image below. Don't humidify kiln to prevent rusty lids. Question on Introduction, https://www.cigarworld.com/education/tobacco-411/curing-and-fermentation/. Aging ? Question: Is a tobacco crop ok around frost? Answer: Tobacco doesn't naturally burn well. It depends on the tobacco, I guess. I have grown some and do not want to ferment it. It looks and smells good but it will not stay burning. Good job documenting your work! Is there a trick to keeping tobacco alight? It's a bit late now to plant outdoors, but you can probably start your seedlings in the hothouse, or better still in little pots on a warm windowsill (Like in the kitchen) . Chopping can be left until after the compression/ageing if preferred. We use cookies to make wikiHow great. wikiHow is where trusted research and expert knowledge come together. Hi we live in sunny Bay of Plenty and want to give it a go. meter for the next hour or so. I got tired of fighting past the damn things to get to my garden shed and pulled them out last May, still healthy and hardy, with a root system the size of a football. Yes I agree that there was too much moisture. and still have some tobacco from afew years ago. . You'll get better results by leaving those tins be until it's time to smoke the contents. (I am, however, all for fermenting sugar in water and putting it through a still, I may be doing that later today). Add the parts, tools needed to create the lids so they're air tight, medical grade silicone lines, manifolds, check valves, RH hygrometer, the grommets alone cost $50 for 10 (with a minimum . After drying my iwn tobacco I put a little bourbon on it in a deep pot and roasted in oven at 50 degrees with a lid on. The bought stuff has additives to keep it going, such as saltpeter (potassium nitrate, the main ingredient of gunpowder). During the fermentation, there are several aromatic stages: Our temps range between 70 and 100 degrees in the summer. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 09, 2014: kiwi_john aka the old fart on September 09, 2014: well planting season is upon us; i've got a shitload of seeds (no not from the dunny) so fingers toes and eyes all crossed for a bumper crop.I'VE GOT ALL THE GOOD STUFF : SEED GERMINAING MIX.MINI GREENHOUSE.NO EXPENSE SPARED TO SAVE A $. You could also try spraying with a mister (one of those cheap mist sprayers that you can get from garden supply shops) Just remember that you want the leaves to dry, not go mouldy. You could also string the leaves on a length of wire, or on a cord stretched between two nails use your imagination. This article has been viewed 141,782 times. !, i want to ask you why? Any suggestions? In terms of my fermentation chamber, there is no problems with overheating or meltingyet! If you want cheap alcohol dissolve a kilo of sugar in 4 liters of warm water, dump in some yeast, or a handful of raisins/sultanas, cover the container with a tea-towel or similar to keep out the bugs and wild yeasts( or you'll end up with vinegar), leave it until it stops bubbling (probably 2-3 weeks) and you'll end up with alcohol at about 10%. I am thinking about trying this year for the first time. fcbdadk, Howdy! Question Use peppermint oil mixed with water to mist your leaves as they are hanging. (These have some glorious botanical name that doesn't matter a bit. Is there a big difference in letting the leaves age? This article is not about health issues; it's about growing tobacco and curing it. I suggest that you air-dry some leaves and then compare. Some are undoubtedly better, but I don't think many would be easier or cheaper than the method I've described, and I know what I've written about works because I've done it. I suggest that you then roll up the leaves and slice thinly with a very sharp knife. Having my first try at it and given I'm in the far north east of Scotland I'm having quite good results so far, that said been an unusually good Sumer. Your question and reply precedes this answer. Tobacco isn't picky. Here in New Zealand, you can buy tobacco seed, grow the stuff, and, if you want to, smoke it quite lawfully. Pull out any small plants or weeds that try to crowd each tobacco plant. You may have had difficulty getting seed in the first place. Answer: I remove the stems because they're woody and would produce lumpy tobacco. Wear sterile disposable gloves and fill each jar about of the way full with your dried and trimmed buds. Very refreshing to be able to find the simple info you want without having read heaps of seriously boring rubbish at the same time!! Great read. No oil heaters required! Please help me Old Firm! Turn the marijuana every few hours, so that all parts are exposed to the sun. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on February 15, 2015: Hi Crom, I'm sorry that I can't help you here; it may be a bad cure but without seeing and smelling it I just can't say. Monitor the leaves periodically to make sure they dont turn moldy, and remove any leaves that do. Thoughts ? Almost magically, theyll regain their pliability with a little moisture. We seem to be in the perfect climate. In the next batch I think I will see if placing the leaves in a large plastic bag will work better. Preparing the leaf is the same for both. I am using some bamboo to attach them to, I stapled them onlol Love the commentary, keep that good humor! Within a few hours the sun begins to bleach it. Question: Is fermenting necessary to grow and cure tobacco at home? Question: Do you think putting a few dried mint leaves in with my tobacco leaves will give it a menthol taste? Basically you need heat (approx 120 degrees) and humidity of about 75%, if this can be sustained for approx 4-6 weeks, fermentation will be complete. This is better for cigars and pipe tobacco. The same goes with tobacco: To cure it, first you've gotta pick it. How Often Should I Water Tobacco Plants? Thanks for the nice comments. I then start fermentation I do this in a burco boiler. If you're not in a rush, take your time and pick the leaves as they come ready. What you do with it then is your own damned business. 4 years ago. Do I have to ferment the leaves at all? I also ground some into a powder snuff, I added a cotton ball dipped in scented oil for a week or so to add flavor and scent then removed the cotton ball later. Some say that it should be left hanging for two years, though I've found that two or three months is quite enough. Question: My tobacco leaves have been hanging for around 3 months, the tips seem to keep going brittle so I have misted them with water as they have become brittle again, is this method ok? I understand that Tobacco in Cigars, Pipes, Roll your own, cigarettes, snuff and all other types are from the same tobacco plant. This is a cheap and accessible possibility to achieve the conditions required for fermentation. It depends on what you want the tobacco for. Commercially it used to have saltpeter (potassium nitrate) added to keep it going, although I don't know what's used now. Paper towels misted and saturated with distilled water is placed on top of the cured tobacco hands with some plastic wrap over it to hold in the moisture, I do a good deal of misting with distilled water about twice a day. whoever they may be. A friend hangs his tobacco for about three months, by which time it has both a nice colour and texture. Question: Dont you have to ferment or sweat the leaves after drying tabacco, to remove excess ammonia? For menthol I just added some mint leaves. The product was a gentler and more aromatic smoke when it landed in Europe than when it left the "New World". Thanks a lot, Yes i have read your article and gave very good things ty but one question is pesticides can i use them on the plant's and will i get sick from it. You will need to make a platform inside the boiler to keep the leaves out of the water. Ive a venture that I am just now running on, and Ive been on the look out for such information. In my past experience as well as experiences in this fermenter, insulating foam is for the most part stable and inert; It won't off-gas unless it is melting. Did you make this project? See what your first try is like, you can always tart it up as you go along. I grow tobacco in a tiny area where I live, about 400 feet (120 metres) above sea level, in a moderate, semi-coastal climate. What you describe looks like a quick way to cure, nothing wrong with that. Show me tobacco . Answer: Home grown tobacco doesn't naturally stay burning. March-June,get started TODAY! If you do have problems, see your local nurseryman or talk to a friend who gardens. Does the Brod and Taylor bread proofing cabinet work good for cureing tobacco? Wash off any dirt, though. Not to mention the moaning at the forever price hikes in Tobacco. Adding moisture to cure is not a good idea, the bud should be dried properly first. **Tobacco sowing season is NOW! Your blog by far has the most simplistic and helpful information on growing tobacco. Was going to make a wooden box but this was easier as I had the bits. Do you have any advice on how to grow these for cigars? The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 11, 2014: Great stuff John, (We're in for a long summer, my banana plant set its first bunch a month ago, although the stalks are still all brown with dead and wind battered leaves; and the raspberry canes are budding) Please keep us posted on how you're going. Make sure kiln has good air circulation and that jars aren't touching walls to prevent condensation in jars. I'm not a smoker any more since the heart problems but i do love the feeling of putting one over the Gvt. Hi there, You have done a fantastic job. So plenty in hand. Would also be interested to read the article you mentioned on distilling but can't find it? Also, in the images above you can see the vent holes I cut in the top and bottom of the coolerI have since plugged them up to hold in the humiditythere was too much ventilation going on. Hanging Tobacco Leaves for Drying 1 Dry tobacco in the fall for the best results. Treat it as you would tomatoes. Trying to grow it here in the USA.if for no other reason to treat bee stings. What is the next step after the fermentation is ready ? Cold and frost will affect your crop yield. Feed a thin tomato stake (or something similar) through these slits so that when you hold the stick horizontally, the leaves hang down about an inch apart. My first year, they did not grow very large but each year after (using the prior years seeds) they grew larger and larger. Question: I've grown plenty of tobacco except I've always just microwaved the leaves or in the oven to dry and smoked the plant still green. The RH Lids have to be cut to exact specs with a Water Jet ($10k) or the hygrometer won't seal properly. Then he fed the leaves through a grinder. When is the best time to plant? And how long will this last in this storage method? [4] Flue [ edit] Death to all bullfrogs, bumptious bureaucrats and politicians!! Tinned tobacco will too, but not to the extent that it would in the tin. You do need LARGE pots, it grows a huge root ball. The grow fast so don't start them too early, time it for the optimum outdoor transplant date. Content is for informational or entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for personal counsel or professional advice in business, financial, legal, or technical matters. Live in California. Isn't it possible to sterilize the pile of tobacco and stop all the fermentation by having temperature too high? Keeping it right in the middle keeping the leaves are warm and supple seems to be the goal..The layer of wet napkins and saran wrap helps a little to hold in moisture between mistings. I've gone 2 weeks to 6 months. Hang the leaves somewhere dry and warm, like a garage or attic. Hi EveryoneI have just read the post for about the 6th time and decided to join the group and say HI!!! My experience is there is no way to cut out the big ribs etc, because as soon as I touched the leaves they crumble into a bunch of tiny pieces. That being said, so can drinking, singing off-key, eating too much (or not enough) meat, and so on. im in manchester uk.. i have tried drying in about 4 diffrent places now over 2 years .. i dried that lot in the loft so there was temp fluctuation. Hey thanks for all these follow up posts and pictures! Im thinking about purchasing and would like to hear some opinions. mayb to much nitrogen locked in the leaf what do you think, Reply Tobacco grows best in places that are dry and warm. Also, I know they like sun but as were in the wrong season Ive put them in large pots in the greenhouse. The most obvious answer, but not necessarily the right one, is trying different seeds. If youve moistened brittle leaves for storage, be sure to pat them down with a paper towel so there arent any water droplets on them. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Question: I'm new at this. I suggest that you Google "HubPages" and check them out. to avoid harsh taste one step of curing process missing - fermentation. Bottom leaves have been harvested from the rear plants. Answer: Yes, The way I know of is to spray the rum/wine/honey solution or whatever on the dry or near dry leaves with a garden mister. Answer: I've never bothered fermenting, and nor have any of my friends. the pic was just of some plants that had mold growth on them. Just what I was looking for answered a couple of questions I had never thought about, I will be starting them off over the next two months now it is Sunday 3rd of March 2019, (I am a slow starter). Gonna have a couple of acres there, so can plant heaps, and better growing conditions. Cut a thin slit through the center of the stem on each leaf using a utility knife. Take a leaf, strip out the center rib and any large side ribs if it's a big leaf, and repeat this process for several leaves until you have a generous handful. Answer: You could try packing small lots at a time in vacuum-sealed plastic bags. So, fermentation, do it if you want to, you may like the flavour better, you may not, I don't think that it matters a damn' for health and safety. Put a fine sieve in the top of a clean, dry bowl, or on a sheet of paper. % of people told us that this article helped them. Maybe I'm ruining it. What you will need:-Air cured Tobacco leaves, Seeds with growing instructions are available here : Tobacco leaves are ready for smoking or storage when theyre brown and pliable, but not too brittle. I believe that it's an evil plot put out by the tobacco magnates and perpetuated by our respective, but seldom respected or respectable, governments to wring money from us. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on April 04, 2014: Thanks for your comments, I use HubPages, as per heading; free to use, just join up. Remember that smoking tobacco probably would not have caught on if it weren't for the process of cramming it into barrels and sending it on a sea voyage in sailing ships - which is how the above process was discovered. Question: Once the tobacco is cured and cut, how do you store so it doesnt dry out like tobacco you buy? Thanks. But to me, all of these smells were delicious!! A fine mist to dampen the leaves is all you need, they will soften almost immediately and you can then cut out the ribs. To smoke it! Thanks. The fermentation cooler I built is, in my humble opinion, is a very cheap and affordable chamber for the home enthusiast. Cover the soil with newspaper or a bit of cardboard to keep it damp. (I've been away playing Cap'n Ahabs with an old boat in New Plymouth harbour). Don't pick the whole plant at once, since they will become ready over a period of weeks. If they show signs of yellowing before this, pick them straight away. This article was co-authored by wikiHow Staff. I planted a few seedlings in February one year as an experiment. Then, thread a string through the slits. there seems to be a new trend in vaping lately as more people are the cost of cigarettes beyond their means and are turning to vaping, i grow my own tobacco and process it myself and have experimented (Mucked around in my kitchen) with 0% nicotine menthol e-juice by cutting my tobacco in an old electric coffee grinder and adding the e-juice bit by bit to the mix until i achieve the strength i desire.. This is an excellent time to test whether you have dried your nugs properly. A lot of tobaccos's taste sweetens with salt - folks will mix maybe a 1/4 teaspon of salt in 8-10 ounces of distilled water, lay the tobacco out on a tray, mist it with the salty solution, allow to dry and then put it in the curing jars. Share it with us! Just to clarify Im not trying to cheat my way out of setting up a kiln. If it's warmer, that's even better. This article is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge. Fire curing produces a tobacco low in sugar and high in nicotine. -Week 4 the tobacco chamber should have the sweet smell of a walk in humidor. Thanks in advance. at home depot, clamp assembly is not needed)-30W light bulb (heat source)-Aluminum foil-Clean paper towels-Plastic bag-Sterilized spray bottle (use bleach solution to clean, rinse and dry thoroughly)-Distilled water. Now, any ideas on how I could take this to the next level & make it into clove cigarettes? This year i ordered from Victory Seeds and they have a much wider variety. Hello to all who read this and also to future me who is trying to figure out what I did that one time. Answer: I don't know, it's been many years since I was in Australia, but I would guess a tobacco plant would take around three months or less to grow there. I started about 400 tobacco seeds, about 85% germination rate. Many thanks. There are 9 references cited in this article, which can be found at the bottom of the page. The seedlings are 2.5 inches tall now. Subtract the one-time cost of the seed ($2.50 buys about 1,000 seeds at the shop down the road from me) and the price of the couple of cups of seed-raising mix and fertiliser you may have purchased. Your stuff sounds pretty swish, have fun smoking it. Im experiencing some small security troubles with my latest weblog and Id like to locate something more safeguarded. -Air cured Tobacco leaves, Seeds with growing instructions are available here : Havana tobacco seeds are good for making cigars, particularity cigar wrappers because of the broad leaves, flavor and smooth appearances once cured. Im from west Wales in the UK. 11 years ago At the worst, the plants will stop growing over Winter and come away again in Spring, and be a bit stunted, but the leaves will still be useable and you'll get plenty of seed for next season. So none of the tobacco was touching the water. If you live elsewhere, check your local legislation to ensure that you're operating within the law. If they taste well enough without them fermenting do I still have to ferment them? Canadian Virginian plant, so I've not looked back. So how do you raise the delicate little darlings? That are dry and warm, like a quick way to cure it, nor. 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