Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. John Forbes officiating. I have no use for him, but if the tables were turned, and the husband was filming, itd be seen as abusive. They were good marks, since they sold everything in 2015, quit their jobs, and moved in with Chris and Shanann for 15 months while Shanann was pregnant with CeCe, who was born July, 2015. My assumption is that LK would like to stay as unconnected to this murder as he can. Phil Hartmans wife was another first name changer. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. There were rumors that they were defrauding employees using payroll/benefit scam. Imagine sitting in a house you cannot afford with two kids and another on the way, and a wife who spends money like it is going out of style and who keeps texting you non-stop about why you aren't responding to her texts, etc.essentially, he married a harpie. She shared every fucking thing on social media. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. It's 2:50 am and I can't sleep. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. Shanann, who did direct sales for a multi-level marketing company that sold health supplements, was extremely active on Facebook, posting clients' weight-loss success stories as well as her photos from her own seemingly happy home life on a daily basis. On a waitress/retail managers salary. That wasnt a real work trip, it was a boondoggle to cavort with her fat friends. He learned of this case from social media and news. Yes, R228, I agree with everything you wrote. what does cardiac silhouette is unremarkable mean / fresh sage cologne slopes of southern italy / ron austin claudine longet Sounds like he was interested in counseling but she wasn't really into it, I'm guessing. Fact: Hisham was married and had children when Shanann worked there. But. That's an interesting piece of information. Especially Scooby Nickole! Gone is HottieWattie and the FattieWattie (pronounce it like Whattie and it rhymes) is back in his rightful place, the guy went crazy being hot, fugly is where he belongs. The documentary pieced together the events . Technically, Chris had power in a divorce action, but because he was so trapped financially, he couldnt even start the process and learn that he did have some options. A Ryan Murphy miniseries on this needs to happen. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. "ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. Otherwise they can claim whatever and whos to say they are lying? But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. jim martin death couples massage class san diego beaver falls football shanann watts first marriage. ^ That's a pic of Shan'ann. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Billions of dollars.. Ok, well millions anyway. After the divorce, LEONARD kept his, but changed it to $100k and changed the beneficiary. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. Im not an expert, but I dont think asthma is terribly elusive (its not LUPUS). R96 I think its because Chris and Scamanne were relatively attractive people and yet their union produced such unfortunate looking kids. I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. Why? R162: A woman with a job equals whore in your world. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. Chris Watts. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN left her cell phone at home. I also think those same things motivate him to not be completely truthful about his true motives, etc. What's the source on that 500k figure? All her bad decisions and shadyness led her to her violent death. John Forbes officiating. She was supposed to have left with the kids due to being upset. (And filed for bankruptcy in 2015!). Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). Leonard Thomas King Christopher Lee Watts on 3 Nov 2012 in Mecklenburg, North Carolina, United StatesResidence, (01 Oct 2004-01 Jun 2005) Dunn, North Carolina, United States (01 Aug 2005-15 Nov 2007) Dunn, North Carolina, United States (15 Nov 2007) Clifton, New Jersey, United States (01 Mar 2008) Fayetteville, North Carolina, United StatesDeath, 2825 Saratoga Trail, Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United StatesBurial, Aberdeen, Moore, North Carolina, United States of America. Geni requires JavaScript! Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. Fast forward to her fertility treatments. She wanted the large house. But Shannon was not normal, since she had her whole materialistic/I and my kiddos are so sick con gig going. Always always have your own liquid accounts if you are married! He couldve extracted himself from Shanann without too much damage. But a physician assistant diagnosed it when all the MDs couldnt. The interview took place in the prison where Watts is . Im R39, so just to add - one of the most pathetic things about this case is Chris saying we never go on hikes.. I can't believe this thread got GRAY-LINED! Talk about flood irrigation! And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. It reminds me of the wasteland between Gatsbys mansion and the City. Chris Watts was convicted of murdering. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. She wanted people to ask her, "How should I pronounce your name?" All his plans were thrown off track. TONS of clothes. I've been following the story somewhat closely, too. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. Why did her kids always have parallel medical problems? The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. But Chris was so lackadaisical about the finances in the Feb 18 interview. r50 frankly even the kids seemed hard to root for. He described how he did it. Identity is an interesting thing. She was pretty smart with her lupus act, because, like fibromyalgia, it has broad diagnostic criteria that mostly depends on patient reporting. Maybe some day well get to the truth about the Dirty South business. Chris clearly has the right to sue Le-Vel. a loan to build this house? Hello and thank you for registering. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. I assure you i am not a moron. I posted earlier extensively about my suspicion that Chris went BALLISTIC about financial stress after getting the mail and seeing the Younique, Le-Vel, etc, charges on ballooning credit cards and then forging (I think) Shanann's signature when she was in NC, on the summons for the lawsuit by the Wyndham Hills HOA. Chris should be let out of prison and given the chance to be hot again. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site teacher harriet voice shawne jackson; least stressful physician assistant specialties; grandma's marathon elevation gain; describe key elements of partnership working with external organisations; Shanann Watts was about 15 weeks pregnant when police say her husband, Chris Watts, killed her and their girls Monday, Aug. 13, 2018. Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. But yeah. Plus, there was a newspaper article written about the tire place she worked in in NC, and in the article her name was spelled "Shanann," and a lawsuit filed against her with her named spelled "Shanann.". After several days of publicly protesting that he had not seen his wife or daughters after leaving for work on Monday, Watts broke down and confessed to the murders on Wednesday, police said. Man, I wish he had consulted a lawyer. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. And she DID turn the kids against Chris. I haven't seen a single post on DL or anywhere else demanding that Chris "should go free" (tasteless DL bitcherous joking aside) for any reason whatsoever. The family of Shanann Watts paid tribute to the slain Colorado mom, her two daughters and . On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. The discovery documents released by the Weld County District Attorney's office last week related to the murder investigation include an anecdote Chris isnt going anywhere, so he should turn her in. "I'm worried about Shanann," she told Chris. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. She was the store manager. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. Oh I hear you R26. Nichol Kessinger and Chris Watts started speaking at work in June 2018, and by July 2018, the pair had started a romantic relationship. What evidence is there that Shanann was making up her diagnosis of Lupus, whether or not she was "a hypochondriac and OCD"? Would you know my name if I saw you in Heaven? A 12 yo girl took it for one day and felt amazing! Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? In response to comments on the post, Shanann said that it was a '3 foot doll' that had been wrapped in 'their twister tarp thing'. No joke. R181, the house is surrounded by water on 3 sides? Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. I had no idea it was that much! These two mothers were hideous; they eventually killed their kidsand themselves. Was she banging him, too? Jesus Christ dangling from the cross what is wrong with some of you. I followed the Hart murders, too. I had trouble sleeping after reading it. One of the detectives admonished him, "Yes, but we I am asking you about Shannan now". LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN left her cell phone at home. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. Oh, and one of her friends was a tanning salon owner. The daughters stayed home with Watts in Colorado while Shanann was on the trip, she told police. She would terrify me. I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. And it goes beyond coldness eventheres almost like a sadistic quality to the whole thing. And he knew that in her vindictiveness she would use the children as pawns and weapons. She didnt realize how controlling she became, according to his accusations. Would you know my name if I saw you thriving in heaven? John Forbes officiating. Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. Anyone have a guess as to why Chris was so brutal with his daughters? He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. You're projecting your own values onto him. She seems like an attention whore. Chris Watts strangled and smothered his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, to death, before strangling their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with a blanket in 2018. Rewatching the confession viedo. Bella was born December 17, 2013 in Colorado. She expected to quietly . Chris Watts is not a sociopath. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. But family members remain baffled by the murders, and police remain tight-lipped about how the woman and girls were killed, and what the suspected motive was. Despite having the same triggers, we never had attacks at the same time. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_family_murders, Shanann Cathryn Watts, (grave marker states Shanann Rzucek), 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 and Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 and unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018 (obituary states August 16th, graver marker reads August 13th). Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". R253, whats the Anadarko lawsuit angle? R145, youre right about that. Hello. Maybe it was a neat and tidy rule. R118 Sorry. A Colorado man has allegedly confessed to killing his pregnant wife and two young children after giving an earlier interview telling a completely different story. Four months after Shanann Watts posted that photo, her husband sits in a jail in Colorado, suspected of killing her, along with their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. And Jim Id love to know more. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. The real victims of this horrendous crimes are the wee girls, may their souls rest in peace. According to Shananns mother, the surgery on her neck cost them $100. His facial expressions reveal that he's more complex than that. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. They're standing on a porch and look sweet and feminine. That really upsets me. Watts. And to restate the obvious again - if you are married, make sure you have your own individual accounts. R107, yup yup yup. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Back in NC, she was working for Dirty South Customs, managing the store. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) Divorced and hanging out at da club promoting the rim shop. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". Shanann and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were reported missing on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. Withdrawal from school because the house would be sold was preparation for divorce; he didn't think anyone would conclude murder. Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. She likely gathered up a down payment from the funds she embezzled from the rim shop, then didn't pay the mortgage. I sure hope he does. - they owed. I just dont get the callousness towards the girls. Once she was done, she cut herself off from him. She got along well with people. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing . Colorado takes moving, and parental alienation, very seriously. to which CW sensibly says "there's no bringing them back. Some features on this site require a subscription. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? Suffering. LOL. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! Said, he refused couples counseling., Shanann was expecting a son they planned to name Niko. Mortgages became harder to get after the 08 recession. Thanks for mentioning that, whoever you are. Maybe thats how she could afford to get manicures while their finances were in the shitter. and missed three mortgage payments on the house that they couldn't afford. But THEN, I saw her have a combination Lularoe clothing party and Pro-Bar taste testing party. https://www.wltx.com/article/news/slain-mom-2-daughters-had-been-in-sc-just-weeks-before-their-deaths/101-585544417, Was just being nosey and googling, do you think this is the same Arie King in N.C? r162 I wanna see those pics of "Shannan" posing as a bitch-ho next to the souped up thug rods. NEVER. I SWEAR she had it. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. Shanann's ex husband Leonard King say's "it was virtually impossible to engage with her" Murder Mysteries 2.8K subscribers Subscribe 7.9K views 4 years ago Shanann's ex husband found. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. During a trip out west, they fell in love with the scenery and overall vibe of Frederick,. I feel like I need to add something special to my name too. I also want to see her car model pictures too. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. That was also around the time she was diagnosed with lupus. She did everything to come across as the perfect, crunchy-earthy, cool progressive lesbian mom. 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