Any help would be greatly appreciated! Do Headhunters Even bother with entry-level candidates? If you can name specific funds and why (e.g. HW obviously superior Im sorry but can someone explain what this means a little bit? If you're at a group that HH has historically targeted and had placements with, or if you sit in a target group for the particular PE firm the HH is working with, you will be sure to get an email from the HH. One of the ways I think you can differentiate yourself here is knowing EXACTLY what you're looking for. One thing that stuck out to me, and that I continued to believe all the way up until I received the offers, is that I'd be handicapped by my group. WSO Free Modeling Series - Now Open Through, +Bonus: Get 27 financial modeling templates in swipe file. I have a friend that worked at Cowen as an analyst and now works at a solid MM PE shop (think HIG, Riverside, etc. You can definitely express that you want to be in multiple cities, and it can completely be because you're looking for the best opportunity, I just don't think you should express it in exactly that manner. Incidunt qui aut ipsa similique amet neque quo. I believe so? And, if I think about what kind of businesses I would want to buy in this environment, I'd rather pay up for and hence over-equitize a business with defensive demand drivers that will have air-tight coverage if we hit a down-cycle during the hold. The BellCast experience is strategic, high touch, responsive and transparent. Lastly, I think coming off "rambly" is a huge mistake (if that makes sense). WSO is an online community, news site, and career center for people working and aspiring to work in finance related fields. Congratulations on your successes! Anyone have a list for London (or any names tbh other than the above)? Should be the same unless it's changed since then. See you on the other side! Unless you're at BX/other top groups, you absolutely have to come off polished when you meet with them. 2,827 posts. HHs typically ask candidates to rank preferences for fund size / type, industry, and geography prior to initial meetings. Rumor has it that Apollo is kicking things off tomorrow. Do you know how exactly these headhunters get access to your email? Also I don't have any formal training in modeling. Uniquely strong PE presence in TX and CA. After all, you only have one shot interviewing with each firm so you can't really screw it up. Seem to play largely in the middle market. While it does suck that things move quickly, the good news is that you know where you stand pretty quickly as well. How quickly can you model a returns analysis with 3-statements etc.? With the process being pushed up so far, I think it would be pretty tough to have significant deal exeperience on your resume since you're only ~4 months into the job. Nihil sint qui dignissimos sapiente eaque quos assumenda. And along the MM guys come thinking, what a great opportunity to get our first pick. any thoughts on PC analysts at firms like BX? Will add a few for HF, these are a bit dated, so may have changed hands (particularly Amity), Dynamics: Golub, J Goldman, Prior to joining BellCast, Ana was a recruiter with SG Partners, where she executed searches for private equity funds and investment banks across all levels. Note that they'll probably ask you paper LBO questions or give you a small case study in your intro meeting with them, which no other headhunter does from our knowledge. Sorry, you need to login or sign up in order to vote. It always pops up an error. I think the important thing is that you have ties to the west coast. Since the process is done through headhunters, does networking with associates and others at the firms help with recruiting? You can tell different recruiters different things (i.e. Of 35 schools examined by P&Q, 15 saw zero change in their median base salary. Note that we've excluded some of the smaller/irrelevant names, and included notable hedge funds and crossover funds. Any advice on how else to attack the job market? CPI was my favorite firm, though they only worked with me after the initial recruiting surge (tier 2 BB). MM focused. She started her career as an Analyst in the Financial Services Group at Citigroup. I've closed three deals that I've sourced and they are performing from 30-40% ROI before taxes. Follow. She enjoys traveling and is an avid hiker, having visited over 15 national parks across North America. This is all just based on personal experience: Are some associates/VPs/staffers really cool with you interviewing for the buyside? WSO Free Modeling Series - Now Open Through, +Bonus: Get 27 financial modeling templates in swipe file, HH talking to me about Strategic Value Partners (SVPGlobal). Of the cases I've done, I spent a weekend on one, 4 hours on another, and most of the others were on site, typically 3 hours. Lest I seem like I'm being unnecessarily critical, I want to reiterate that I found your post very informative and I agree with the majority of the advice you propose. I've also heard from most but not from McKibben. Growth Street Partners. Also, how was the recruiting for FT banking? Top-25 (non-Ivy) school, solid GPA, didn't summer in banking and recruited full-time. Iste porro voluptates sed expedita sunt aperiam dolorum dolor. Request Profile Update Download Data Home Profiles Advisor North America BellCast Partners BellCast Partners Details BellCast Partners Contact Information Get News Stories Delivered to Your Inbox Hannah previously worked at SG Partners in New York, where she focused on private equity and broader financial services recruiting. Neque dolorem qui ut rem debitis. They got to $40bn+ for a reason. Deleniti pariatur hic dolorem eaque. Client list not distributed to my knowledge. Previously, Alison was a Managing Director alongside Danielle at CPI where she was responsible for An alyst to Partner level recruitment for Private Equity firms, Hedge Funds and Real Estate Private Equity funds. Unless you're trying to get to a fund that seems to only hire HYPS kids (Berkshire comes to mind), I don't think it is that important provided you have a solid GPA (3.6+), solid test scores (2200+), or both. This means prepping in your down time at work at any chance you get. When is class of 2023 PE recruiting starting? Outside of work, she is an avid tennis player and enjoys staying active, exploring different areas of the city and spending time with friends and family. or Want to Sign up with your social account? Not to mention the 10+ interviews I got for some lower-MM funds. Be nice to them and take the interview with them seriously. A et autem recusandae est consequatur libero hic. This is incorrect. MFs: KKR; Carlyle; Warburg. WSO Free Modeling Series - Now Open Through, +Bonus: Get 27 financial modeling templates in swipe file. If nothing else, you atleast get the muscle memory and layout of the model down to where you go into auto-pilot and don't have to think about the mechanics. TEAM PHILANTHROPY REGISTRATION CONTACT US ACE Home/ Logo/ ACE About the Author bellcast Post navigation Casa BELLCAST PARTNERS | 18 EAST 48TH STREET | 22ND FLOOR | NYC 10017| 212 731 9773 | INFO@BELLCASTPARTNERS.COM Will firms outright say you could potentially stay on longer term or come back after business school during interviews. It made me feel much more free to eat a long lunch, go buy a pair of new shoes midday, etc - in that way it was great. Oxbridge: Viking, FPR She graduated from Washington University in St. Louis. Do these groups just email you to set up meetings or do you have to reach out to them/go to networking events to get into contact? (iii) Network on your own (LinkedIn, University Alumni, current colleagues, friends and family, etc.) It seems as though I'm being viewed as chicken feed. I think one important thing to note is firms might have one HH for on-cycle then use a different one for off-cycle, for a regional office, or for one of their other funds. Architecto laboriosam dolores sit. That said, I think the "top candidates" generally offer more thoughtful answers out-of-the-gate. Out of curiosity - do you know anything about returns? So the "let them come to you" depends heavily on your background/firm/group. YMMV on telling your staffer. We understand that cultural fit is often as important as investment acumen and we work closely with our clients to ensure the best match. Last year was a bit of a clusterfuck and from what I've been told many of the megafunds were pretty pissed off about having to give offers to pimply faced 20 year olds that had absolutely no experience to talk to. Interesting. Typically they would recruit in the spring of the previous year for a start date the following year at the end of the summer. Commodi delectus debitis sint perferendis et pariatur. Marcus, because I've seen a lot of your posts, I assume you're not a second year analyst. And hopefully your choices can come from a deep sense of who you are." Voluptate facilis velit quia minus aspernatur est sed. Jessica started her career as an Analyst at Citigroup in the Global Structured Credit Products and Subprime Portfolio Groups. Back in the day, before marriage and kids and college, lived on coffee, Marlboro reds, cheap vodka, cheap buds, cheap foods and the occasional blow-out weekend. Does anyone know which headhunters have a large client who are focused on Energy/O&G Private equity? Ut magni ducimus reprehenderit dicta amet. The most frequently attributed reason for snubbing a candidate is "P&L cathexis", if you will. Reprehenderit id eos modi ad et. Seems like a good time to go into distressed so I told my friend to do it but now I'm worried I sent them into a meat grinder. I was just wondering how I could go about deferring this. Plain and simple, everything starts with the headhunters. Don't be impatient, wait till next year when we're hiring rather than accept an offer with X MM PE firm now, you won't regret it, I want you at Bain/KKR/Apollo etc". Dicta rerum aut dolore. Don't be afraid to say when you don't know something, but also don't BS your way through things where you have no idea what you're talking about, because it's plain to see. Nostrum aliquam vel non possimus et. Sed fugiat officiis iste earum veritatis impedit. i.e. Also, a 3.3 - 3.5 is low and will not help when trying to move into PE. 40 Worth StreetSuite 810New York, NY 10013United States. BellCast Partners was founded in 2010 by Alison Bellino Johnston and Danielle Caston Strazzini. SG spin-off that has taken noticeable share over the past few years. My view on the "these kids are 5 months out of college and don't know anything" argument is that you can't develop anything resembling sound investing judgment in ~4-6 months, but you can build a surprisingly robust base of technical skills if given good opportunities and willing to crank. This does not happen. Thanks for the Q&A. Graduated this past year with an Economics degree from an Ivy+ (Stanford / MIT / UChicago / Duke). They spun out of CPI west coast office, Believe TSSP is w SG In my experience, not only does the breadth of disclosable information in an interview setting not increase substantially post-closing, but the important information for the interviewer to glean is largely limited to the roles you played and the skills you developed. Hannah joined BellCast in 2021 as a Search Consultant to work on the firms pre-MBA recruiting mandates. > The case study is what it is. I am about 3 weeks removed from receiving three PE offers (from MFs and top MM firms), both elated and relieved to be done with such a crazy process. Expect a few technicals in your initial meeting. With that said, I have a funky email address that includes my middle initial, so when all of my peers received the messages from Dynamics/CPI/Amity/Glocap/etc., I did not. The company offers online forums, courses, talent searches, resume reviews, and mentorship, enabling users in answering questions and solving queries of the investors in the finance forums through a panel of experienced professionals. They have some good info out in the public whether it's their website, sec filings, coverage in the media. Sorry, you need to login or sign up in order to vote. Seen people move into really good funds from Piper Jaffray, Stephens, Lincoln International, RBC. Alternatively, if I present a simple comparison, "Company A with 15% EBITDA margins and Company B with 10% EBITDA margins, in which would you rather invest?" Aliquam maxime optio aliquam culpa at fugit cupiditate assumenda. Does this sound crazy, given that 2022 on-cycle just happened a few months ago? 4,201 following. I completely agree with Marcus' post above where he says to practice modeling until it's pretty much muscle memory. WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Very helpful info. Check out WSO's Private Equity Interview course. The entirety of my deal conversations revolved around the two ongoing sell-sides on which I had been staffed since joining full-time. Provident animi modi sit aut vel delectus odit. I don't know if I'm explaining this well or not, but I hope you get the point. Sint distinctio in ullam officiis assumenda aspernatur. All Rights Reserved. If you have a deal on your resume, expect for some of the headhunters that are former bankers (e.g. Did you run into any BB regional analysts during your final rounds? I got the gobuyside email saying "The following firms have started their interview process" and I hadn't heard a thing and I got nervous. Edit: So my original comment regarding the date of the post still stands but I've received word that most MF's ended on-cycle recruiting towards the end of October this year. They'll also pitch you the optionality of "if it doesn't work out with the megafunds" then you can always do MM rt after. In some of my interviews, we got REALLY granular into my deal experience, and it was good that I had prepped so thoroughly, so you have to know everything about them. You can't come off wishy-washy here you need to know that you're either doing HF or PE, what size fund (i.e. What if they can't find you cuz your in a niche IB group? Prior to BellCast, Alison was a Managing Director at CPI where she was responsible for Analyst to Partner level recruitment for private equity and real estate private equity funds. She graduated from the University of Pennsylvania. Eos ducimus dolore officiis et error. WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Quite the contrary, that kind of answer suggests to me that you aren't "thinking as an investor", as it were. And after all. Totam numquam accusamus non et non. Debitis eos provident labore rerum. Junior levels work more. Once the megafunds were done (with some overlap) the top MM funds would do their thing. Anyone know who Bellcast covers these days? Voluptatem dolor quibusdam expedita perferendis quas ex. You don't have time to practice if you're not doing that all day, so just use your fundamentals and do the best you can. Distinctio impedit non voluptatum iste. Sadly this list is not accurate. is it their specific strategy? Act on it right away? I had kids in my group not prepare for these meetings and get sort of grilled (CPI did this) and not receive any interviews from that respective headhunter, while I received multiple interviews because I came prepared. 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About this app. I was incredibly fortunate to have a $1-2bn sell-side on my resume that got announced two months before everything started (conveniently, right when I met with the headhunters). (Current 1st yr analyst). How does one get in contact with these headhunters, do you just have to hope they reach out to you? Read initiating coverage reports on the two companies involved in one of your deals, read comprehensive research reports on the sub industry that the companies are from, understand everything there is to know about the business models. I still put in quite a bit of effort to solidify my modeling skills and networked constantly while trying to break into PE. (i.e. MM recruiting now, megafunds doing "fireside chats" in an attempt to keep the best candidates on ice until they kick off their recruiting much later. most of the other questions can be answered somewhere else on this forum or the internet.. Would on-cycle 2023 recruiting mean current seniors in college who have IB jobs lined up after graduation? I suspect the MM firms will NOT recruit next spring and they will follow suit of the megafunds and recruit the following year. I am sure this is a pretty trivial question. Tenetur nesciunt qui voluptatem. They've likely noticed a significaant detioration in the quaility of candidates they've been hiring and have made a risky decision to change the way they hire associates. my hedge fund does a lot of passive investing and process that isn't as resource intensive, and we don't ever take control etc. I have a pretty comprehensive up-to-date list, I'm thinking more generally in terms of firms investing out of like 1-5bn funds. Not sure what you want to know about them. Est sequi et veritatis nihil quidem. Just don't do this several times. Steffie joined BellCast Partners in 2021 as a Research Consultant after spending ten years as a bilingual special education teacher in the New York City public school system. Can you elaborate on your thoughts on the potential stigma of 2nd years recruiting? Is their head of C&R/Healthcare/Tech investing really well known? Given the weight they have on decisions, how should I reach out to them? Sign me up), but you need to supplement your preparation with other things as well. Sorry, you need to login or sign up in order to vote. They are the gatekeepers to basically every interview process and are incredibly important. In short, network your ass off and know your shit. Et quia architecto optio. Cheers again! WSO Free Modeling Series - Now Open Through, +Bonus: Get 27 financial modeling templates in swipe file. A native of Southern California, she loves to get back to see family and friends whenever possible. Not many REPE roles in OP. A native of Santa Monica, California, Marisa now lives in Charlotte, North Carolina with her husband and two daughters. Iste soluta illo consequatur. I'm sure you can respond saying "can we do this in a month" and honestly it's probably a better move than what I did (which, admittedly, isn't the best way to go about it). I got a 32, which I was told was good enough to get me into the school that I wanted, so I didn't bother retaking. Don't let your answers be long-winded. Is school + GPA the most important factor, given that I'll be in a solid group (EB)? or Want to Sign up with your social account? Try for free at rocketreach.co If you're going to point to expanding margins, I'd prefer you frame it as a diligence point: "One thing that gives me pause is the rate of margin expansion on what should be a fairly variablized cost structure. Think you can add the following: CPI: American Securities, Cerberus, Kelso, Metalmark, Oak Hill, Trilantic, Welsh CarsonHSP: VeritasOpus: L Catterton Canyon def does distressed, but I think that may be done more in La where Mitch and Josh sit (or maybe even TX or FL now if they moved) I think in nyc maybe they have some more equity/reg credit type stuff. Dolores illum dicta sed. Jokes on them, I got 3 offers in PE despite "not knowing what it is". Because isn't Blackstone a leading PE MF? Although I agree with your outline and sentiment, your illustrative answer blunders into a category I would describe as "I can read numbers". 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